Wordy one responding to The Brightest Melancholy .

Been saying abstract too much.  I’m using abstract concept to mean roughly anything non-objective.  Things like wealth, friendship, justice, and autumn.

Any sfw image is open and will not require artist permission (I still may try to get it).  This is criticism for nonprofit educational purposes so it should be good on fair use. 

So please send in an image link by 20 Oct 2014.  By not viewing until record time I hope to expose a clearer message of how I look at things.  That fails, I can try a script.

And thank you everyone who follows me.  I’ve been doing this for almost 2 years and am happy with my integrity.  It means a lot you follow my posts.

Summary of:

Section 3 and 4 of Avant-Garde and Kitsch

by Clement Greenberg

[Now I can take off the period attire.]

No More Parties image (NSFW) by Scorched Wing (NSFW)


A Quiet Place by Scorched Wing (No More Parties’ avatar)

Toaster by otakuap

Pink by Edyammies

photograph by Alexia Khruscheva

untitled by NSFWdoser

CELESTIA I by Graffegruam

I Remember Nothing by WolverFox

lust for youth by celestiawept

Apple Tree by BlindCoyote

untitled by FrostadFlakes

images used without permission for purpose of reporting

Summary of:

Section 2 of Avant-Garde and Kitsch

by Clement Greenberg

If Greenberg’s hate of kitsch didn’t come across, I’ve failed.

Summary of:

Section 1 of Avant-Garde and Kitsch

by Clement Greenberg

Clement Greenberg: Intro

Answer to submission commenting on line and style.

I really only touched line media.  Line style I guess I could expand to.

Featured Art:
A sketch by bcpony image

Your interposition post got me thinking about how certain ways of drawing affect the same drawing.

Just as an example, the two pictures you used in the post show a significant change in presentation. The original was drawn in pencil, and looked much softer. The lines all connected together and made the image come to life. The characters looked like they were actually there to some degree because they had solidity and form.

Then moving over to the second one, ignoring the minor edits, were essentially the same picture. However, because the lines looked up much more broken apart and rough, the characters looked a little less… there. Like they were just statues posing. This is odd considering they were essentially the same picture, nearly line for line.

Again, I’m ignoring the edit made by the second one and looking at the fundamental differences, and I feel this can be shown as an example of how putting a piece together affects the way it looks.

As a personal example, I find this happening a lot with my own artwork. Pieces where I use the sketch, clean it up, and colour it from then on feel much more alive (example linked here). The lines look much more fluent. Yet, when I go to line artwork, it feels a lot less alive, like the lines are artificial (example here. All three characters have been lined.).

Of course, this doesn’t mean that linework in general is a bad thing. My point is that the a picture doesn’t benefit from certain style choices as another picture would. Other things work, and others don’t.

This goes back to a point I made in another submission I made where I mentioned consistency and balance with the realistic eyes from Backy’s post. If another artist were to draw the same picture as the one you used as an example in your post line for line in their own style, it would look weird more than half the time.

Now, I don’t have much else to talk about on the topic, but I wanted to bring it up to encourage some thinking about the topic. However someone who reads this perceives the way this works is up to them. In art, it’s best to interpret things in a way that makes the most sense to you rather than how someone explains it.

Once again, I rambled a little longer than I feel I should have, but I’ve said what I could. Keep up the good work~


Since you obviously are aware of what you are drawing, what is your reason for retaining the ghosted sketch lines?

That has a long and a short answer. Short answer is I like them and I’m lazy. Long answer in here.

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